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Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Databits on July 22, 2005, 09:32:35 AM
I know that Xepher and I both play, even though on different servers, but does anyone else?
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Xepher on July 24, 2005, 05:13:31 AM
I'm guessing that's a "no."
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Gwyn on July 24, 2005, 03:26:54 PM
i can't afford MMORPG monthly fees :(
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: tickyhead on July 24, 2005, 05:13:53 PM
I suppose I COULD afford it if I wanted to . . . thing is I'm already an RO junkie and all, and ONE rpg consumes more than enough of my time, let alone two :P
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: griever on July 24, 2005, 08:02:02 PM
I'd probably love the game, because I liked all the previous incarnations of Warcraft, but I'm on dial up and I'm poor. :(  Someday, maybe, just to try.  The problem is that I'm not a huge fan of playing against anonymous strangers.  Anonymous, potentially rude and idiotic strangers.  I'd rather stick to getting beaten by my friends or my computer.  x.x
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Xepher on July 24, 2005, 08:24:47 PM
I hear that... I hated EQ and most other online games for the same reason. Surprisingly though, WoW seems to NOT be filled with jackasses. Sure, there's a few here and there, but most of the people I run into are actually helpful and nice.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: griever on July 24, 2005, 09:58:32 PM
That's good to know, Xepher!  I've avoided EQ for the same reasons (my friends who are/were obsessed with it had similar thoughts), as well as that new Final Fantasy game.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Databits on July 24, 2005, 10:36:28 PM
QuoteI suppose I COULD afford it if I wanted to . . . thing is I'm already an RO junkie and all, and ONE rpg consumes more than enough of my time, let alone two
Yeah, I like RO, but I played on the official servers for 2 months (on a free 15 day trial because they were too dumb to shut off the account) and didn't care for em too much. It's too difficult to level, decent items are hard to come by, and the lag... OMG the lag. It's sad when private servers like valhalla had no lag and were just as big as their smallest server. So no more RO for me anymore. I like WoW because of the flexibility, and nobody on RO roleplays.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: tickyhead on July 25, 2005, 12:57:31 AM
QuoteYeah, I like RO, but I played on the official servers for 2 months (on a free 15 day trial because they were too dumb to shut off the account) and didn't care for em too much. It's too difficult to level, decent items are hard to come by, and the lag... OMG the lag. It's sad when private servers like valhalla had no lag and were just as big as their smallest server. So no more RO for me anymore. I like WoW because of the flexibility, and nobody on RO roleplays.
eh, it's gotten a little better now than it was when I first started. (lvling is still WAY too frelling hard, tho ><) I never get lag for more than a second or two, and it's usually because my computer did something stupid, not the game's fault. of course I have a decent internet connection and a reeeeeally nice computer.... besides all my friends are on RO and I'm far too anti-social to try making new ones. >>;

Now that I think about it my friend has WoW and lets everyone play on her computer for hours on end...I should hang out there more.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Gwyn on July 25, 2005, 01:47:59 AM
you might like this http://www.big-boys.com/articles/leeroy.html if you like MMORPGs
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: tickyhead on July 25, 2005, 08:38:15 AM
hehe... on the subject of WoW, (although not quite the same >>; ) anyone seen this little number? XD (most likely yes, I'm always about three steps behind everyone else ><)

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=PurePwnage-WoWisafeeling
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Tangle on August 11, 2005, 04:45:07 PM
That video... is amazing.  

The sad thing is, I actually know a couple who met over a MMORPG.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Xepher on August 11, 2005, 11:31:38 PM
Heheh. Leroy was hilarious. Notice that they had that many people, all organized, and chatting using teamspeak? I hate those people. I don't have time to devote my life to the game, but people like that go and get all this stuff, drive prices up, slaughter all the important spawns, etc... Before us part-time players ever get a chance at it.

The second video was corrupted when I tried to view it. It chopped a lot, then the sound just died. Oh well.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Databits on August 12, 2005, 07:06:55 AM
I thought about starting a new character on the new server that just opened. That way everyone is on equal playing grounds. Since character transfers are currently disabled, itwouldbe equal for a time at least.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: SilentFyre on August 12, 2005, 08:23:37 AM
Wow I can't believe I missed this thread! Heck yes I play WoW! This might be the reason I did miss this thread.

I mainly play the horde side on the server Nathrezim. I also have an alliance character on Sargeras, but all my friends seem to have ditched that server. They did all try making new characters on that new server and if I weren't so attached to Nathrezim, I would have joined them. I'm just tired of moving to a new server with my friends and them just giving up on it.

As of now, my characters include:
-Undead Mage: Level 43 (Nathrezim)
-Troll Priest: Level SEVEN (Nathrezim)
-Night Elf Druid: level 35 (Sargeras)

I aslo made a hunter on Sargeras but eh, Im not really playing there much anyways. I made the priest last night and was just like, "Blegh." and I needed sleep. However I really enjoy playing her.

I did go out and buy a headset and I have gone on to TeamSpeak a few times. However, when I was on TS, I wasn't really of level to do any good instances that would need it. The only time we were a group when on TeamSpeak was when we all got drunk, turned into pirates and raided Booty Bay. (My friends aren't very sane.) If you kill enough bruisers, you can get friendl with the pirates and they give you a hate that will summon a parrot. I don't know about you, but I hate the bruisers with a seethign passion and when I get to 60 I am going to kill as many as possible.

I played Valhalla online as well and damnit I liked it! It was a fabulous server. However, it really can't stand up to WoW. The graphics in WoW are way too awesome and the people are more flexible. I have yet to meet a complete pain in the ass. Yes there are those who you ask "Why are they that level?" or even "Why are they playing that CLASS?" Im serious. My friend went on a Scholomance run with a level 60 healing specced priest who didn't know how to heal properly. Then at the end, they all thought they had done a fabulous job.

Then we move on to those who are just oblivious to common courtesy. I've had one encounter that just angers me. I usually offer water to people who could use it and port my teammates when we need it. However, one day in the badlands someone asks if I could port to Orgrimmar. Sure I can. I invite him to my group and give him a second. He didn't ak if it costed money or aknowledge the fact at all. I ported him anyways and would have ported him for free had he even thought about how much it might cost. This was right after I had hit 40 so I was still rather stripped for cash. I had bought my mount and even had to borrow money for my training. I just want people to understand that hey, it costs 18s to port you places!
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Ashley_Rose on August 12, 2005, 01:46:16 PM
I play COH, like the superhero/X-Men geek that I am. If anyone else does, do tell.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Xepher on August 12, 2005, 03:29:18 PM
That's the one of the few complaints I have with WoW... Since it takes so long to get a character up to high levels, you're pretty much stuck with that character if you don't play ALL the time. Then when you meet other people who play WoW (like here) the odds that you're both on the same server are nil. Anything but an MMO, and you can just say "hey, let's go play on server ____ for a few rounds." I try to create characters on servers with people I know, but I run into the same problem as Fyre. By the time I get a few levels, they give up and I don't see them for months. Then I find some new people "Come to Shadow Moon, it's great!" and then they give up those chars by the time I make 20... Grrr!

Ashley, how is CoH? I hear good things, but I'm not that big of a fan of most comic books, though I do like a few.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Tye on August 12, 2005, 06:46:04 PM
sadly I can't afford to play online RPG's right now But I do love to play them like the FF RPG's and more.....*wink*
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Lei on August 12, 2005, 07:12:50 PM
I play MMORPGs as long as I don't have to pay for them (currently addicted to Dofus) They aren't as good, but my dad gets on my back enough without having to spend money on the games.

 WoW looks like lots of fun though. I have a few guyfriends that play it.. typically I never see them out of school.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: SilentFyre on August 12, 2005, 10:53:28 PM
Yeah Xepher, that is possibly the biggest problem in WoW. I mean, I love playing with my friends and don't want to switch servers on them. My only real life friend has connected me with some awesome in game friends that I don't want to leave behind as well. After a while, you really begin to plant your roots into one server.

I think Blizzard tried in a very failed attempt to remedy this problem by allowing character transfers. Once you think about it though, the odds that the two servers you need are connected to each other are pretty low. I have yet to have any servers that I play on get connected to another friends server. :/

My friends have given up before they even hit 20 and also right as I hit 35. I was like, "Okay guys, please stop doing this." I was getting so used to playing my druid and was looking for my saber mount and they up and move servers on me. >_<
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Xepher on August 13, 2005, 12:17:32 AM
Yeah... the character transfer thing they do from time to time isn't so much for social reasons, as to balance out the populations. When a server gets overcrowded, they sometimes offer people a chance to move from that specific high population server to another, single, low population server. Then there are games like Eve Online (and a few others) where you can pay a fee and have your character transfered to whatever server you want. I think that's a gyp for a game you're already paying a subscription for.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Databits on August 13, 2005, 03:14:19 AM
Yeah I agree... RO does that on their official servers as well. You shouldn't need to pay additional costs for server transfer. Actually, If I do get this mmo running, I'd like to run a different type of system. Where you have a single character and chat server, but multiple world servers. That way you can log in, select your character, and then your realm. So people could get their whole group onto any server for say a quest (which would carry around to all servers since account variables is how that stuff is tracked) and not need to worry if it's overcrowded. The purpose of a single chat server would be to allow people from any realm to communicate.

There are, however, a few issues with this system.

The first would be, well, things like the auction house in WoW. That's more of a world thing, unless you do something like an auction house server as well. As for AH stuff... what I wanted to do was build an additional web interface that allowed people to vend/bid items on their characters on a website as well as in game (say you want to check or set up auctions but don't have the client installed at work).

The second problem would be things like character management by GM's and whatnot. You'd need some sort of server "cool down" implemented. That way a player couldn't just log, relog, relog, relog... onto different realms. It would make it a nightmare to track down the person if the need arised.

The third is things like server type... roleplaying, player vs player, normal (whatever the hell that is)? How would you handle something like that on a system like this. I'd think that it would be more like the normal/rp servers on WoW. Where those who like pvp can flag themselves, and those who don't, well, don't. As for seperation between rp and normal, that's a bit more tough to do.

Aside from that, I'm sure there are other issues that would arise with a system like that. I just think, because many people are quite stupid, it would be abused somehow. You'd also need to make sure that ALL realms are exactly the same as the next.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: SpiritWalker on August 26, 2005, 07:01:13 AM
You might want to check out The Basin WoW Forums. (http://www.theamazonbasin.com/wow/) We have close to 1300 members playing as friends.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Xepher on August 26, 2005, 08:12:08 PM
Actually, since my old guild died, I've joined a new one. So far, quite good and active, so plenty of fun people to play with whenever I get online. Thanks though!

And in case anyone's curious, I've got a 47 elf druid on Terenas, and a low level (20ish) tauren hunter on Shadow Moon. Lemme know if youre one either and want to play.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: SilentFyre on August 28, 2005, 08:24:32 PM
Id join you Xepher but I am too hooked to my current character and don't want to start a new one. If anything though, I might consider joining your Tauren with a priest. I still have yet to make a priest :P

(I have 10 levels to go and a million stacks of runecloth to get my epic raptor. Watch out world. Here I come!)
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Databits on August 29, 2005, 08:24:25 PM
Heh... I just hit lvl 44 on Argent Dawn today with my rogue. I'm trying to keep my brother interested in the game, but he's disapointed with the lack of roleplaying on the AD server (which from what I hear may as well be classified as a Normal server rather than an Roleplaying server).
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: SilentFyre on August 29, 2005, 11:56:01 PM
I considered joining an RP server. it sounds really run. I randomly go through bouts of RPing on my character. I talked to an NPC before and people were running by me. Needless to say, it was amusing. :D
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Databits on August 30, 2005, 03:42:17 PM
Honestly, if you're going to play on an RP server to RP... don't pick Argent Dawn. The server may as well be classified as a normal server, because roleplaying is rather rare. We also get occasional attacks by people from the Blacrock server when theirs goes down. They all sit in Ironforge and spam yell until their server comes back online. Blizzard GM's, for the record, are quite useless. They have yet to enforce a damn thing from what I've seen. They sent me back this "we're working on resolving this issue" and two weeks later I see the exact same people spamming still. Way to go Blizzard!

It saddens me that a FREE server like Valhalla Online had better GM interaction and policy enforcement than a game you must pay for. They could at the very least do a realm ban on those accounts that have a record of that crap. Since they don't really *play* on the server, they just make 1st level gnomes and spam. Ahh well, not much I can do about it other than constantly writing the complaints like so many other players.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Xepher on August 30, 2005, 11:29:43 PM
Yeah, they are slow to fix some things... on the other hand, most of the bugs I've complained about HAVE been fixed, usually by the next patch. The responses were always the same "We are work to resolve this..." response, so I just figured it was a brush off, but then things actually get fixed. As for people "spamming" well... I can't say much for it. Just imagine how hard it would be to try and manage a bunch of PAYING customers who complain about each other. They can't just kick someone for being a bit annoying here and there, and on the other hand, they don't have nearly enough resources to monitor people's behavior all the time. And while it may be "obvious" that people are being 'tards to you, it's not always so apparent when you jump into the middle of something. Anyone who's ever been a forum mod knows what I'm talking about... Now imagine only getting the last 10 posts, rather than the whole thread. Who's to blame? You just have people pointing fingers at each other, and no real evidence to go on.

P.S. Data: You spelled your title wrong. It should be "cigoL esreveR"

P.P.S. I'm suddenly saddened that I notice backwards mispellings by accident, yet have trouble properly spelling a vast majority of words forwards.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Databits on August 31, 2005, 06:18:14 PM
It's not just me though, when they do it apparently there are a LOT of people who register complaints about the peopl who do it. I've noticed it isn't quite as bad as it used to be, but it still happens (WoW did build in realm bans to the server recently now). It only happens when the Blackrock server goes down though.

As for my title... It's fixed.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Da_Pohli on October 08, 2005, 10:36:54 AM
I played WoW for a while but i changed over to Guild Wars. First the mothly fee made my pocket getting smaller and smaller and you had to play World of Warcraft nearly 4 to 5 hours a day to get a successful character.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: AskZeek on October 21, 2005, 07:06:45 PM
Well, I have a few 60's on Dalaran, and a 30 on greymane.

But I'm excited about this one comming up.

www.ddo.com

Yeah, DnD.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Databits on October 21, 2005, 07:48:20 PM
Heh... yeah about that. I cancelled my WoW subscription. Decided it was taking up too much time in my life and I have better things to do. I mean... I'd rather write and run my own game than sit and play one hours on end.

I also had a few thoughts about running a custom written RO server from the ground up. But to make it totally legal the server would need to actually be coded from the ground up and use a custom map format (rather than accessing the client map data like current open source servers).

For all that work I may as well put the effort into writing my own server and client eh?
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: thefemnazi on October 22, 2005, 06:05:31 PM
Quote from: XepherP.P.S. I'm suddenly saddened that I notice backwards mispellings by accident, yet have trouble properly spelling a vast majority of words forwards.
Ooh, I know why that is.  It has to do with how your brain works.

And I'm poor, so I play Runescape.  I used to play EQ, and probably will someday again.  I miss it.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Miluette on October 23, 2005, 03:57:53 AM
I want to play WoW. Badly. Because of money issues and time/college issues and dail up issues, I probably won't for yeaaars. I did RO and ROSE for a while... RO went P2P way long ago so I tried private servers, and they sucked (though it was nice being able to see Prontera) ... And ROSE is going P2P in November. So all I have left is Maple Story, which is only fun with my friend. :( Guh.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Xepher on November 30, 2005, 06:10:36 AM
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Perhaps I should've posted this under "You know you're a nerd when..." :-P
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Kestenvarn on December 01, 2005, 02:14:40 AM
No, no. It fits the subject well.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: tickyhead on December 01, 2005, 03:25:19 AM
man I love it when games have normal skills like cooking or fishing or other stuff like that. It gets boring if everything in the game is "generic tough hero" type stuff.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: dragyn on December 01, 2005, 05:42:45 AM
Yeah, I played RuneScape awhile, but have long since given up due to a slow connection.  That, and the game got very repetitive if you didn't pay them.  Money hates me.  That's the only explanation I can think of as to why I never have any.  At least, the only answer I'm willing to offer.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: tickyhead on December 01, 2005, 06:40:18 AM
meh, runescape was pretty much the only RPG where you can do mundane stuff that I didn't like. I dunno, it just didn't seem as fun as other games I've played. Granted the looks had a tiny effect on my like or dislike, but frankly when a graphic-heavy RPG has graphics so bad that even using my imagination doesn't make them look any better, I usually get bored of playing pretty fast P: besides, I've seen better games for free and insanely whacked out and high standards for RPGs.

I'm lucky enough that money tolerates me on occasion :) plus that I know these awesome neighbors who pay me $10 an hour to babysit their kid. Eeeeeasy money.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Databits on December 01, 2005, 04:46:33 PM
Quoteman I love it when games have normal skills like cooking or fishing or other stuff like that. It gets boring if everything in the game is "generic tough hero" type stuff.
Which is basically all RO is, except it has some appeal to it.


See, in games it's not important to make sure that the player can do everything. Actually, what you want to do it immerse the player to the point where they don't attempt to do things that the environment can't support. Meaning that if you give a player a fishing pole, they'll expect to be able to fish, if you let the player wade into water, they expect to be able to swim.

World of Warcraft did this very very well. Actually, even though you can't do everything, they basically set it up so that the players can do what they expect they can. They give you the fishing pole, and guess what? You can fish! I picked up this skinning knife, wow with practice (Skinning) I can actually skin things. Oh that's a nice herb, I wonder what it does (Herbalism)... hey that's really good! I think I'll pick it and make a potion out of it (Alchemy). I want my weapon to do elemental damage like creatures, perhaps I can use this essence and upgrade my weapon(s) to do just that (Enchanting).

Damn near perfect design for the game. They didn't add any elements to the game that would cause a player to expect to be able to do something that they couldn't do (to my knowledge).
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: tickyhead on December 02, 2005, 03:40:04 AM
admittedly RO could use a lot more in the "mundane skills" area. Sure you can make weapons and potions IF you are a blacksmith/alchemist, but it's definitely more fun if anyone can do it . . . although that's kind of the point of blacksmiths and alchemists is that not everyone can do it, and if everyone could do then they would become unneeded and probably not be in the game, so they'd have to make up something else for a merchant to become, or just scrap the entire merchant idea entirely and put a different class in their place, and judging from the "taekwon" thing they're experimenting with on kRO that would just lead to an unnecissarily complicated job . . . I guess if you look at it from that perspective then it's a bit less grating that they don't have a cookie-making skill.

Hmmm, that would be a cool idea . . . a baking job instead of that stupid taekwon job . . . they can throw burnt cookies at their opponents and have frying pans and spatulas and big spoons as weapons, and bake healing items like cupcakes or muffins, and for their 2nd jobs they can be cooking show hosts or restaurant owners who can hire other little 1st job cooks and use them as cheap labor! Man that'd be cool. Bashing a poring with a giant wooden spoon would be fun.

Maybe when I get all that money for christmas/birthday I know I'm gonna get I'll buy WoW and try that out . . . I've seen it in action and it looks fun. Worst case scenario I can always sell it on eBay :P
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Databits on December 02, 2005, 06:12:40 AM
Heh... well RO basically used a professions system instead of a standard class system. WoW used a profession system on top of a standard class system. RO wasn't built to allow people to use all the professions (broken class super novice anyone?). When people play RO and they are a swordie or acolyte, or even something like a priest or sader... you don't expect to be able to make weapons or potions on those characters because their roles are predefined in the game system and world.

Even the quests to obtain your "Job" gear you towards the mindset of that job. It's the design of it.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Miluette on December 05, 2005, 03:54:14 AM
You know what?

Games where you can do everything make my head spin.

Example: Final Fantasy V. MADNESS

I like being told what my next class will be and its abilities are! *sheep*

Oh but mundane tasks are fun. Like fishing. I'd fish a lot in Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. LOL. I had to catch a 20 pounder.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Databits on December 15, 2005, 05:47:12 AM
(http://www.jinx.com/images/products/452bgForest-Green.jpg)

Horay for those who care about their look. ;)
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: dragyn on December 15, 2005, 05:57:25 AM
whyd'ya have to be level 5?
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Databits on December 15, 2005, 03:31:26 PM
Because you aren't cool enough to dress pretty till you're at least level 5 I guess. >.>
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: dragyn on December 16, 2005, 01:24:03 AM
That makes sense, I guess.

Also, nice ASCII art in your sig.
Title: Any other WoW players here?
Post by: Databits on December 16, 2005, 03:33:15 AM
Actually, it's a modified version of something that one of my old WoW guild members would do... but he left the guild and kinda dissapeared off the face of WoW. I like it, so I adopted it. :D