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Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on October 02, 2005, 04:21:36 pm
Name: Lindsey
Manga: Elimination
URL wanted: www.mythical-illusions.xepher.net/

Elimination is a Manga story that I, Lindsey, am creating, There are no partners, the story line, novel, and manga are being made by me.
I personally can admit that I am not very good at HTML work, so please do not be surprised that some of my sites are not of the best quality, I do try my best with the recourses I have.

The URL name that I would like to have would be: either Mythical Illusions or Elimination.

Elimination is a Novel but also a manga that I am making, each thing, the novel and the manga are both simaliar but share different aspects of the story.

Elimination is about an elf named Rindesei, and how she goes through her past and present. The Novel goes back futher then the Manga does into the past.

A list of all the main characters and short descriptions are here:

::Main Characters::

Rindesei- Class ::Royal Elf Warrior:: Main Character  Description: Green Blue long hair; Blue Pink eyes, Weapon of choice: Lengendary Dragon Jewel  (can munipulate multiple weapons) Royal Warrior Scar located across her eye with a gash like a dot  next to it indicating that she is a royal warrior.

Desuchini- rindesei's sister... Class ::Royal Elf Warrior:: although she really isn't the Warrior type. Weapon of choice: Traditional Medium sized Boomerang. Royal Warrior scar shaped like a moon under her left eye.

Chido and Jakukie - Rindesei's Human Friends:: Helps Rindesei with all sorts of human troubles such as school and even acting normal on the Streets.

Seanu- Rindesei
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on October 02, 2005, 08:54:47 pm
Once i get a tablet within the year or so I will have more colored version of different peices done, this laptop mouse pad does do anything for me in Open Canvas 4+
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Tangle on October 06, 2005, 10:39:38 pm
Your website comes up as a page not found error message.  

If you're planning on making a manga, I would suggest getting at least a few pages done before you put up an application here.  As Xepher has said time and time again, plans really count for nothing.  

The instructions specifically state that your username must have "Only lower case letters, numerals, and the hyphen/dash ( - ) character."  This means no spaces of capital letters.  

Your Deviantart account has a nice amount of content, but it could do with a little more.
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on October 08, 2005, 03:37:48 pm
I am so sorry, my tripod site is:
http://destinyangel8350.tripod.com

I also aplogise for misleading and forgetting to describe that I do have 4 manga pages done. Although one is on deviantart, the others are not on the internet. I actually plan after I get 6 pages done to go back and redo them, make them neater. Sort of like Revising them.

And finally I am sorry that I forgot about that username rule, the username that I would like to have is.
www.mythical-illusions.xepher.net/

The username does apply to the story since most of the story is about myths and legends including Rindesei.
I am working on the revised page one as I type.
The first page one is in my Deviantart Gallery.
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on October 08, 2005, 11:29:56 pm
I have a question, (I am sorry if it is a repeat):
Can you use a pre-made layout?
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Xepher on October 09, 2005, 12:41:23 am
You can... Just be aware that your site is gonna be judged on content and creativity. Premade layouts (if they're obvious or cliche) are gonna detract from that.
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on October 09, 2005, 01:45:17 am
Quote from: Xepher
You can... Just be aware that your site is gonna be judged on content and creativity. Premade layouts (if they're obvious or cliche) are gonna detract from that.
Ok thank you
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Orange_ on October 09, 2005, 10:28:08 pm
pre-made layouts are layouts already made by other people and you get to download them and use them right?
Sorry...I'm very sure...:|
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Lei on October 10, 2005, 03:20:25 am
in a word... yes
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on October 11, 2005, 10:48:00 pm
Quote from: Orange_
pre-made layouts are layouts already made by other people and you get to download them and use them right?
Sorry...I'm very sure...:|
Yes
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on October 11, 2005, 10:52:06 pm
I just wanted to put out there that by this weekend I should have the revised manga pages 1-4 scanned and on the internet.
I also wanted to confirm that I am using a pre-made layout that does not revert to any other anime/manga. Im good at editing them, not making them. :/ :D
I am also making a layout by myself, when i get done both i will put the best one as the example!!
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Lei on October 14, 2005, 10:47:03 pm
First off, I'd just like to say that don't depend on a tablet to do your work for you. A computer mouse works just fine in a lot of cases, and the only reason I would switch over to a tablet would be for saving time and the ability to change pressures. I've been working with a computer mouse for drawing, with or without the Photoshop pen tool and for colour and I've found it only takes a couple of weeks of practice.

  And the fact that I have photoshop doesn't change matters either. I've used a lot of other computer programs before and it's just a matter of getting used to them. It just so happens I'm too used to photoshop's functions now :D

 Also, there are a lot of comic applications to XN, so why is yours any different? I think you need a little bit more to hook us in. I, personally, think you need a bit more work before you try and create a comic, if not art-wise (cause it's rather pleasant already) then writing and confident-wise. I noticed a lot of cliches and Grammar errors in your application, and maybe that needs a little more work. (And if I'm being picky, I'm very sorry; I have english this semester, lol)

 What I mean by confidence is while you have a lot of images, everywhere, I noticed that none of them are made by yourself. People generally don't mind, but sometimes the reader find it misleading to have someone else's art on your page, which is supposed to hold your gallery. If you aren't going to use your own art for icons and layouts and IDs, it tells the reader you aren't creative enough to make your own graphics. Whether or not that may be true, it's the impression anyways.

  Good luck on your applications. And sorry if I'm nitpicky- like I said, I've got english this semester :D
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on October 20, 2005, 01:31:26 am
I would like to say first of all yea...I am personally a bad at spelling.
Secound my deviant art gallery is only my art exept for the ID, the ID was made before I even got my scanner working and I haven't had time to make a new one.
Also the Icon on this account is just something I came up with. I make another one just for you.
Third, I don't even have a regular mouse to work with, I got my finger and a small little pad on my laptop. I have Open Canvas 4+ that I am currently doing work in and I may say that It gives me more of a challenge then in Photoshop.
And fourthly, I would like to say thanks for the critisism.
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on October 20, 2005, 01:36:32 am
I would also like to say that I usually use traditional tools so the manga pages will also be made using traditional tools, I am soo sorry for the delay but home problems have kept me from the scanner heh....
I assure you that every once in a while a new revise page of the manga will be made making it even better then the ones before it.
Thanks!
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: homeworld on October 20, 2005, 06:59:17 am
Quote from: Lei
First off, I'd just like to say that don't depend on a tablet to do your work for you. A computer mouse works just fine in a lot of cases, and the only reason I would switch over to a tablet would be for saving time and the ability to change pressures.
Repetitive stress injuries (rsi) exist! Get a tablet, it's better for you.
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Lei on October 20, 2005, 06:46:11 pm
yeah... I suppose, but usually believe that if thay have a tablet their artistic ability will increase tenfold. THAT'S NOT TRUE.  They are just as bothersome as a mouse until you get used to them or photoshop. At least that's what I've heard.

 Your welcome Rin! I hope you get some of that stuff up soon ^_^
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Databits on October 20, 2005, 07:40:53 pm
I used to use a tablet in highschool... but I haven't put any art skills to use in quite some time. I tried to draw something recently and completely failed. Guess that's what I get for not drawing anything since 2000. So now being in the 2000 National Art Awards pretty much amounts to nothing. :/

Anyhow, back on topic... Yeah I found tablets to be easier to use than a mouse. Granted you need to get used to it (it is in no way the same as normal freehand as you aren't actually seeing what you draw on the tablet, but rather on the screen), but once you do it's considerably easier than a mouse and better in results in most cases. After all, most people are more used to drawing using a pen, pencil, pastel, chalk, brush, ... than a mouse.
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on October 21, 2005, 08:09:35 pm
I will never rely on a tablet, I like traditional tools better.
I am just trying to say that it will take me ecpecially because I am not used to computer art to make a CG peice.

I just scanned my 1-4 revised pages and Ill put the URL's on in a minute.
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on October 21, 2005, 08:47:24 pm
And here is the first page, for now!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/DestinyAngel8350/Revisedone.jpg
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: AskZeek on October 21, 2005, 09:54:04 pm
Well, I think the reason people promote tablets are largely from those who have been working with photoshop etc for 10 years or so...  When you love digital art, inking or coloring a tablet is a godsend.  But it will not teach you how to miraculously use the programs to their full potential.  Don't even bother making the investment until you get comfortable working with digital.

Your first comic is cute.  a few pointers:

When planning out word bubbles, make an estimation of how much space the text will take up.  Having great feilds of white detracts from your art, and unless you want a text-heavy comic that's not something you want to do.

If you do have a photo-manipulation program of some sort, try bringing up the black values in your art to be the same tone as those in your border, it will help clean up the art, and make it stand out more.  Right now the absolute black you chose for the border washes out the colors in your peice, and makes your art fade into the background.

Good progress so far!  Just remember to challenge yourself every day in your art.  The only best way to gain skill is to attempt things you know you'll fail at, learn from the faliure, and move on.
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on October 22, 2005, 01:16:19 am
Thanks AskZeek!

I hope everyone knows this is not how I plan to have the final copy, I will keep making revised copys until its perfected to a certain point.
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Databits on October 22, 2005, 03:43:41 am
In my opinion I usually prefer to see new content rather than the same piece that's been redone/revised multiple times. If you're doing a comic why not just improve your technique as your comic progresses? I've seen many comics that do it in that fasion.
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on October 22, 2005, 01:35:30 pm
Oh I see, Thank you!
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: homeworld on October 25, 2005, 07:14:14 am
Quote from: AskZeek
Well, I think the reason people promote tablets are largely from those who have been working with photoshop etc for 10 years or so...  When you love digital art, inking or coloring a tablet is a godsend.  But it will not teach you how to miraculously use the programs to their full potential.  Don't even bother making the investment until you get comfortable working with digital.
Risking to be a bit offtopic here, but i disagree. I completely disagree. Sure, people with formal training in traditional media will always paint digitally much better than the average noob, because they already know form, anatomy, color, composition, etcetc, but that definetly doesn't mean that people with less experience won't be able to benefit from a tablet. Don't limit your creative potential with a mouse, people, cough up 40 bucks or whatever and get the cheapest wacom you can find if you REALLY can't afford the 'investment'.
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on November 17, 2005, 11:42:19 pm
I apologise for not being on the internet as much, I am currently working on the novel part, and the final copy of elimination manga page 1-4.
Thanks for the patience.
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on November 17, 2005, 11:47:10 pm
I have actually decieded that I am going to not begin at her past in the manga but only in the novel to try and make it more interesting.
It took me a while to actually begin to get into the swing of things since ive been kinda in this ditch for a while in my drawing, but I am totally pushing through it.
Title: Elimination Online Manga Site Application
Post by: Rindesei on November 30, 2005, 03:56:51 pm
Elimination Page 1 and Page 2 Final Copy will be scanned during this week or weekend, edited, and uploaded for everyone to see. As well as a couple others. I apoligise for a long span of not scanning anything because I have been in an art slump for alittle.

Pictures that will be uploaded:

-Elimination:"Bloody Battlefield"
-Elimination: page 1 and page 2
-Elimination Decal
-Elimination:"One more Scar?"
-Elimination:Alanna: The Keeper of Myths

These will be definatly uploaded.