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Xepher.net => Applications => Topic started by: Misako on October 04, 2005, 07:59:15 pm

Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on October 04, 2005, 07:59:15 pm
Site/Username - let-me-be.xepher.net
E-mail - Rosewithorns@hotmail.com
Sheezy - http://misako.sheezyart.com (art IS updated at least weekly)
Current Site - http://let-me-be.i8.com/port.html (no personal art, lots of pop ups and ad banners, just to show what I can do as far as HTML goes)


Hi, My name is Rose, I go by Misako or Rose Fawx. The website link for my current site is the layout. I was using that free server,  it was good for a week or so, but then it got all, addy. You can see all the millions of ads :/

I draw anthropomorphic. I'm just looking for a server where I can showcase my own art. I get harassed on sheezy and I really don't like having my personal art there. I'm working on a webcomic, nothing lengthy, just little strips. And I have a few stories and character bios I want to put up.

I also had 3 questions about content.

A friend of mine would like to share the site with me, is that allowed? he'll just have a gallery and a update page.

If that is allowed can he put gore/violent drawings? He does macabre cartoony, lots of detail. He doesn't draw hateful violence. Spooky is just his style. If you need art samples from him I can add them.

I see that adult art is not allowed, we cannot post it even in a password protected gallery? If not I can just post my adult art somewhere else. (I don't draw alot anyways :p)

I guess thats it. Thank you for your time. *fingers crossed*
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Gwyn on October 04, 2005, 08:35:33 pm
Porn is not allowed, nudity and sex is.

Quote from: Xepher
Violence Ruling: Violence shall not be excessive. I've yet to see an example of excessive violence in any application or site here. Violence is allowed for anything short of "violence for the sake of violence." There are people who get their kicks from things like watching snuff films, or seeing horrid depictions of blood and gore. Most anything short of that is probably okay. Basically, if the violence is plot or story related, no problem. Start posting pictures of dead babies to get your jollies, and you're out. What I do ask for anything above about a PG-13 rating is that you post some sort of warning before people see it.

Porn/Sex/Nudity Ruling: Nudity is allowed. Sex is allowed. Porn is not allowed. Let's seperate the three. Porn is nudity and/or sex only for reasons of carnal gratification. Are you drawing or writing a scene as part of a real story or plot? Or just for purposes of arousal and pleasure? I really think this one should be pretty obvious to most people... with the possible exception of anyone who genuinely reads playboy for the articles. :-) The easiest analogy is the difference between R and NC17 rated movies. NC17=No (most of the time.) R is allowed, but like violence, I ask you to have warnings for any content above about a PG-13 rating.

Multiple Accounts Ruling: You can have and/or apply for multiple accounts. Getting a second account is going to be tougher to justify though. You'll need to truely have two independant sites that independantly qualify. Usually this happens when a single artist has multiple comics, both of good quality. In cases like that, it actually can make things easier on me to keep them seperate, as I can assign seperate domains to each one, keep stats seperate, and even promote them more directly though things like the newsbox. Bottom line: If you think you need a second site, then feel free to apply. Be sure to note that it's a second site though. The worst that'll happen is I say no. :-)
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Nat-chan on October 04, 2005, 08:50:06 pm
the server! I really hate it.  I use firefox and got all kinda things tabbed, after clicking on a link it was asking the password over and over again.   ._.
maybe you should host temporary on geocities ^^
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Databits on October 04, 2005, 10:55:49 pm
Once again, and I stress... password protection via Javascript is in no way secure. It's too easy to break a pages security when the password is written directly into the page source. Once you have webspace, if you are looking to protect a pages content, use something like PHP or Perl. A server side scripting language that is a bit harder to break.
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on October 06, 2005, 02:59:03 am
Yea, I know Java isnt secure, It's really just to keep 1 person out, and my current server doesnt allow apache or php :/

I'm gonna remove the password thing, i dont have any art posted anyway
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Databits on October 06, 2005, 12:20:20 pm
It's just something I seem to see somewhat frequently. Just letting people know. Under the situation of a javascript lockout for any website, all you really need to do (in most cases) is disable javascript and reload the page, then view source and walla! Javascrips source code, easy to read (providing you can follow through some javascripts out there).

I've even seen sites that attempt to obscure the javascript password protection file stuff by making the initial script do a bunch of weird character stuff to generate a name for another javascript to load. Those are pretty amusing, esspecially since someone obviously put a lot of work into trying to block people and all you really need to do (most the time) to break it is shut off javascript for your browser. Even more so, security through obscurity is bad practice in itself.

Try it sometime. Next time you have a site that pops up with a javascript "Password Required" type window, disable javascrips and reload the page (note that some javascripts are designed to load page content as well, and thus will not display at all, this is still not hard to bypass since you have the sourcecode right there). Under firefox with the web developer tools, this is an easy thing to do from the webdev menus.
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on October 07, 2005, 05:21:42 am
Thanks for that info. If i do choose to password protect my gallery I'll definetly secure it better, this was just basic, and I was warned that it's easy to break. Hopefully I can find a server that allows apache or harder to crack passwords.
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Lei on October 14, 2005, 11:51:00 pm
I think the art is cute, and the design is pretty nifty, so I do a "vote" yes. good luck on the application!
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on October 15, 2005, 03:29:17 am
Quote from: Lei
I think the art is cute, and the design is pretty nifty, so I do a "vote" yes. good luck on the application!
Thanks a bunch ^.^
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Slang on October 21, 2005, 02:34:33 am
Sup Rose! I just saw your app today, and, lovin' you and your art, I vote yes. =D
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on March 30, 2006, 05:47:45 pm
Quote from: Nat-chan
the server! I really hate it.  I use firefox and got all kinda things tabbed, after clicking on a link it was asking the password over and over again.   ._.
maybe you should host temporary on geocities ^^
I don't like geocities, This is just a temp thing, I hape I can get the the next step of the application.

But yea... the server sucks.
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on March 30, 2006, 05:49:05 pm
Quote from: Slang
Sup Rose! I just saw your app today, and, lovin' you and your art, I vote yes. =D
Thank you for the support Slangey ^.^ :B
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Munerift on April 02, 2006, 04:13:03 am
Although I think your layout is nice and clean, as well as your art is along the lines of free thinking, I had surfed to your commission status. In there I found you openly will draw anything, and you even outline you'll do porn as well.

Surfing to your galleries, you have a MATURE link which you outline leads to "sex and violence" with clarification that it's mainly "bloody/gore." I feel this might be alittle too excessive for the Xepher site as described, but since the gallery links arnt active I cant see what your definition of "gore" is...

I dont think the rest of the site will be a problem, but it might help to leave the "porn, violence, and gore" off the plate.

(Let me clairify I'm not Xepher nor am I in any position of authority, these are just my 2 cents. :))
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on April 07, 2006, 02:06:48 am
Quote from: Munerift
Although I think your layout is nice and clean, as well as your art is along the lines of free thinking, I had surfed to your commission status. In there I found you openly will draw anything, and you even outline you'll do porn as well.

Surfing to your galleries, you have a MATURE link which you outline leads to "sex and violence" with clarification that it's mainly "bloody/gore." I feel this might be alittle too excessive for the Xepher site as described, but since the gallery links arnt active I cant see what your definition of "gore" is...

I dont think the rest of the site will be a problem, but it might help to leave the "porn, violence, and gore" off the plate.

(Let me clairify I'm not Xepher nor am I in any position of authority, these are just my 2 cents. :))
I read that part and already clarified that I will not post what Xepher does not allow. I also found out what violence is allowed and most of my art is pretty mild, I don't draw too much nudity, and my violence is even rarer, but I do plan on asking a lot of questions before posting any art. and I do plan on putting UBER warnings on any non g rated pics, even if it's a little bad language.
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Munerift on April 07, 2006, 04:21:15 am
Oh okay, I overlooked that post; sorry about that. As I said I didnt see the bulk of the art in question, but from what it had explained it hadnt looked in accordance with Xepher's policies.

Would you have a site or be able to make changed to your current one that will comply with the rules for people to see..?
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Xepher on April 07, 2006, 05:26:54 pm
Well, Gwyn copied the bits under the "Clarifications" thread that apply. I took a quick browse through your sheezy gallery (like the "Taco Heil" gimmick, FYI!), and offhand didn't see anything that wouldn't be allowed. The other site was so muddled up by ads and stuff that I couldn't actually find a gallery on it.
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on April 21, 2006, 02:04:55 am
Quote from: Munerift
Oh okay, I overlooked that post; sorry about that. As I said I didnt see the bulk of the art in question, but from what it had explained it hadnt looked in accordance with Xepher's policies.

Would you have a site or be able to make changed to your current one that will comply with the rules for people to see..?
My art is at http://misako.sheezyart.com, the current server cant host my images, too much space :p

But I'm not gonna update too much on that site, it's just an example of my HTML skill, I don't update it or even log into that server. Too many ads....
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on April 21, 2006, 02:08:55 am
Quote from: Xepher
Well, Gwyn copied the bits under the "Clarifications" thread that apply. I took a quick browse through your sheezy gallery (like the "Taco Heil" gimmick, FYI!), and offhand didn't see anything that wouldn't be allowed. The other site was so muddled up by ads and stuff that I couldn't actually find a gallery on it.
The "test site" doesnt have a gallery because the adds kinda eff up my layout and I didnt want to bother with uploading thumbnails and images and gallery layouts when I was planning on applying here.

Really, I draw more nudity and sex rather than porn. I think porn is a very generic term, my nudity isnt sploodge or graphic, when I say pron I mean more along the line of tasteful pinups, or sex as a expression of  emotion.

But Gwyn did clarify whats porn and sex/nudity.
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on July 18, 2006, 05:39:17 am
If you were paying attention to The G! beast here is an updated site, with a new and improved gallery, though I guess it's not improved... since it's brand new...

Well, Please check out my site :
http://let-me-be.i8.com/port.html

The galleries are at "Personal Art"


Enjoy, comments are VERY appriciated, critiques... even more!
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on July 18, 2006, 07:29:10 am
and if you thought that was sqwished together, then have I got the second attempt layout for you!!!

http://let-me-be.i8.com/port2.html

Can someone let me know which one looks better
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: fesworks on July 18, 2006, 03:25:13 pm
2nd one is MUCH better... but why is your stuff in a smaller window with a scroll bar? I understand there are ads there and you can't help that.... but are you forced to be in that window?
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: fesworks on July 18, 2006, 03:32:58 pm
AH! I see, its an imbedded webpage..... thus you are getting at least twice as many ads messing with your screen... I personally would not do an imbedded page or Frame? i think it is? because of the ads. I do each page individually... takes more time, but has less ads.

You might want to try a few different free hosts to see which one puts less ads on... i think Geocities only has that one ad strip per page, not per frame.
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on July 18, 2006, 05:18:00 pm
Quote from: fesworks
2nd one is MUCH better... but why is your stuff in a smaller window with a scroll bar? I understand there are ads there and you can't help that.... but are you forced to be in that window?
It's just the frames, lol This server assumes that it NEEDS to put a million ads
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on July 18, 2006, 05:23:52 pm
Quote from: fesworks
AH! I see, its an imbedded webpage..... thus you are getting at least twice as many ads messing with your screen... I personally would not do an imbedded page or Frame? i think it is? because of the ads. I do each page individually... takes more time, but has less ads.

You might want to try a few different free hosts to see which one puts less ads on... i think Geocities only has that one ad strip per page, not per frame.
I really don't like Geocities, I'm pretty used to the freeservers.com layout and file manager, plus this is probaly the 4th site I've made, The MAIN purpose is to show my HTML skill and that I can manage a fully HTML based gallery and site. If I make ANOTHER site it would just take up more time, plush signing up for something else and getting more spam to my e-mail all for a temp sample site. I just dont see it as worth the time when it's only a sample site.


I like the frames, but it is inconvinent with my current server....  But this is my original site design, and I don't want my sample site to be totally different from the real thing.


Sorry for the essay :p
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: fesworks on July 18, 2006, 05:43:25 pm
hahaha, alrighty then

but that is hardly an essay... you should see the stuff I write :P
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on July 18, 2006, 06:05:30 pm
sometimes I feel I ramble when I couldve said a word ot 2, lol XP
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: golden-crystals on July 19, 2006, 06:59:51 pm
Yeah, down with Geocites! I like your site, though the ads are nothing you can help. I would like to say that for future sites of yours to have a larger imbeded window (It's a pain to have to scroll down with a little bar >< )It would be nice to display your pictures larger, 'specially with the talented art you have! Love the green btw, lol
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on July 20, 2006, 04:52:15 pm
Quote from: golden-crystals
Yeah, down with Geocites! I like your site, though the ads are nothing you can help. I would like to say that for future sites of yours to have a larger imbeded window (It's a pain to have to scroll down with a little bar >< )It would be nice to display your pictures larger, 'specially with the talented art you have! Love the green btw, lol
Thanks :3

Did you click on the image to enlarge them? or did you mean larger still?

I'll tweek around with the imbedded window
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on July 27, 2006, 05:08:33 pm
http://let-me-be.i8.com/port2.html

The gallery should be fixed, CLick on the images to enlarge them, They should open in a new window, if anyone is having a problem, let me know please
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: frostings on July 28, 2006, 12:06:33 am
woah, loading the sheezyart page gave me quite a wake up call!
I was also loading your sample webpages and I didn't know which page the music was blasting from (i had the volume at max level, since last night) XD

I would also prefer the 2nd wider version of your sample site. Less cramped... and there's no need for a sideways bar. ^^

Crazy amounts of ads stretching your frame O-O"

Ah, the javascript facts. I didn't know about that. Interesting. ^^


^^ The gallery pieces that I clicked, are working fine. ^^
Title: Let-Me-Be - The art of Rose G!
Post by: Misako on July 28, 2006, 01:44:30 am
Quote from: frostings
woah, loading the sheezyart page gave me quite a wake up call!
I was also loading your sample webpages and I didn't know which page the music was blasting from (i had the volume at max level, since last night) XD

I would also prefer the 2nd wider verrsion of your sample site. Less cramped... and there's no need for a sideways bar. ^^

Crazy amounts of ads sketching your frame O-O"

Ah, the javascript facts. I didn't know about that. Interesting. ^^


^^ The gallery pieces that I clicked, are working fine. ^^
I'm definetly going for the second wider version, Those ads... cant help em :p (glorious freeservers!!!)

lawl, I need to learn how to have a start and stop button on the musical ID images, I'm JUST learning flash :p
Well thanks for checking things out :D muchly appriciated!