Yeah, there's no IRC involved. I'd much rather use IRC as well, but that's the one prohibition of my hosting contract. I can't run IRC without being on their special (ed) IRC network. Here's the reason... 90% of IRC is used for piracy or hacking/war. No joke... before they split the IRC lusers off to their own network, my intrusion detection was reading hundreds of attacks and scans every day. Now (at least until that hacking attempt last week) it's only a few a day. I'm not willing to run on the same network as that many infected and evil computers, so I had to find another solution for chat.